that that's the case. apartment and rental fees, i think anybody who lives here knows taxes were due december 10 at the latest. we still haven't gotten, we won't know until january what the results of how we're doing in that first payment of the property taxes. the reason i say that is the apartment fees are tied to the roll, they are built along with your property tax so that's when they come in. >> in terms of expenses, as i mentioned, 40 percent of the budget has been expended for personnel and we're at 42 percent of the year so we're just, we're slowly catching up and i expect by the end of the year, as i said, we'll be not completely fully staffed but we're getting there. the other sort of expenses or trends that we're seeing in expenses is they are starting to bill out the work orders but most of the departments don't bill them out until january for the first 6 months of the year so that's where we'll see the large ones, which one largest is the city attorney's office. so we're waiting for that. just kind of a footnote. next meeting we'll be presenting the first iteration of
